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Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre PC?

Publié : 09/03/2011 - 17:29
par Laurent de Lyon
Si je parle de cela, c'est que le logiciel de sécurité en question est mis en avant sur de nombreux
sites informatiques très connus, surtout depuis qu'il est offert gratuitement aux particuliers.

Il s'agit du logiciel Buffer Zone Pro, proposé sur ce site -> trustware.com

Un petit tour ici nous en apprend un peu plus sur cette société
-> trustware.com/Trustware-Management-Team

Trustware Management Team
Israel Baharav, Chairman and Co-Founder

Israel Baharav has significant and broad experience managing young, advanced technology companies. He was executive chairman of Idanit, now called Scitex Vision, and later of Objet. He was also closely involved with two other high technology startups, Healinxs and Optonics; was founder and president of BI-101, an international consulting company; and is Managing Director of STEP Inc. in Israel. Israel Baharav served in the Israel Air Force (IAF), where he attained the rank of Brigadier General. He has held top-level executive and operational roles in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), including Head of Air Force Intelligence, Head of Air Force Operational Requirements, and Head of IDF Strategic Planning. As a fighter pilot and commanding officer, he took part in and led hundreds of operational sorties, and is credited with shooting down a total of twelve MiG-21 aircraft in aerial combat, more than any other pilot in the world. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal by the President of Israel.

James Penosky, CEO

As one of the founding members of OnDemand Partners, Jim has over 20 years of management experience from startups to Fortune 100 companies. Prior to Trustware, Jim was the CEO of Onigma, an Israeli based security software company focused on the Data Leakage and Prevention space that was acquired by McAfee. Jim's responsibilities at Onigma included all aspects of the business including raising capital. Prior to Onigma, Jim was VP of Computer Associates (CA) Business Development group which had responsibility for all acquisition and divestiture activities. Additionally, Jim established CA's Internet Security business. Under his leadership, the Internet Security business grew to over $4 million in revenue and over 400,000 users in eighteen months. As Vice President of Business Operations at CA, he led a global team in the creation of CA's offshore Technology and Customer Support Centers in India, China, and Eastern Europe. Jim acted as the US liaison for CA's 20 joint ventures in Asia and served on the Board of the CA-Satyam joint venture. Jim has a Bachelors of Business Administration from the University of Iowa and a MBA from Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.

Eyal Dotan, CTO and Co-Founder

BufferZone technology was invented by Eyal Dotan. Eyal is the author of ViGUARD, one of the first Host Intrusion Prevention (HIPS) software, which sold hundreds of thousands of licenses in the private and government sectors and was the first proactive protection to have ever stopped the 'I Love You', Melissa, Klez, Blaster, and Sasser virus outspreads without using black-list signatures. He holds a number of patents in the field of computer security, and has participated in numerous security events and reviews such as Virus Bulletin, Black Hat Europe, MISC, NetFocus, and JSSI, as well as IT security training at the European Commission. He also heads the Windows security program at EPITECH - European Institute of Technology, in Paris.


Intéressant... J'ignorais que cet anti-virus (viguard) était lui aussi Israélien...

Bon, ça ne veut pas dire que les logiciels de sécurité qui ne sont pas Israéliens ne contiennent pas de mouchards. Mais quand on lit la biographie de l'un des 2 fondateurs et son engagement dans l'armée Israélienne, on sait à quoi s'en tenir.

Une autre société que j'avais repéré, également mise en avant par de nombreux sites web parce qu'elle offre des certificats gratuits pour les connexions http sécurisées, est Israélienne.

-> startssl.com/?app=1

"startssl" appartient à la société StartCom Ltd :

-> linux.startcom.org/?app=4

StartCom Ltd. (Israel)
Eilat, Israel
+972.8.634.4170


StartCom Ltd. (USA)
Los Angeles, California, USA
+1.213.341.0329

startcom.org/
linux @ startcom.org

Who is StartCom?

StartCom Ltd. is a software house and solution provider, located in the south of Israel. The resort city of Eilat on the Red Sea is famous for its tourist attractions, but now also because it's the home of StartCom.
StartCom is a solution provider for web based applications and PKI enterprise solutions, specialized in Linux based implementations. It operates MediaHost™(mediahost.org) since 1999 and started in the beginning of 2005 the StartCom Certification Authority (startssl.com) .


Il est intéressant de signaler qu'il y a déjà eu des soupçons sur les sociétés qui vendent
des certificats, certaines partageraient des informations avec des Etats, ce qui leur
permettrait de lire le contenu des connexions http sécurisées. Notez que le virus Stuxnet (dont l'activité
nuisible a servi les intérêts d'Israël) utilisait un pilote signé par une autorité de certification.

Re: Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre

Publié : 22/03/2011 - 22:27
par Theodore
Sans vouloir te vexer, Microsoft et Apple ont des partenariats secrets avec la NASA et la CIA.
Je crois qu'il ne te reste plus qu'à brûler tout ce qui est un peu informatisé chez toi :).

Re: Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre

Publié : 23/03/2011 - 14:29
par Theodore
Martine Aubry est une pouffe !

Re: Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre

Publié : 23/03/2011 - 15:13
par Theodore
Vive la mariée !

Re: Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre

Publié : 23/03/2011 - 16:56
par La Gauloise
:mortderire:

Re: Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre

Publié : 29/03/2011 - 0:03
par Laurent de Lyon
Je viens de découvrir un autre logiciel de sécurité israélien.
Il s'agit du célèbre firewall Zone Alarm, de la société Check Point.

Pour commencer, faisons un petit tour sur le site de leur société :


-> checkpoint.com/corporate/contact_list.html

General Mailing Addresses
United States
Check Point Software Technologies Inc.
800 Bridge Parkway
Redwood City, CA 94065 –
International
Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
5 Ha'Solelim Street,
Tel Aviv 67897, Israel -




Maintenant, allons voir du côté de ceux qui dirigent cette société :


-> checkpoint.com/corporate/facts@a-glance/index.html

COMPANY MILESTONES

Established in 1993, by Chairman and CEO Gil Shwed, Check Point first pioneered the I.T. security industry with FireWall-1 and its patented Stateful inspection technology, which is still the foundation for most network security technology today.
[...]



-> checkpoint.com/corporate/executive.html
-> checkpoint.com/corporate/board.html




Gil Shwed

Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Check Point Software Technologies

Gil Shwed, one of our founders, is the Chairman of our board of directors, a position he has held since 1998. He is also our Chief Executive Officer and one of our directors, both positions he has held since we were incorporated in 1993. Mr. Shwed also served as our President from our incorporation until 2001. Mr. Shwed has received numerous prestigious accolades for his individual achievements and industry contributions, including an honorary Doctor of Science from the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, the World Economic Forum's Global Leader for Tomorrow for his commitment to public affairs and leadership in areas beyond immediate professional interests, and the Academy of Achievement's Golden Plate Award for his innovative contribution to business and technology. Mr. Shwed is a member of the Board of Trustees of Tel Aviv University and the Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Youth University of Tel Aviv University.


Amnon Bar-Lev

Vice President of Global Field Operations
Check Point Software Technologies

Amnon Bar-Lev, vice president of global field operations at Check Point, is responsible for worldwide sales, global partner programs, business development and technical services for the company. Mr. Bar-Lev joined Check Point in 2005 and brings more than 15 years of high-tech sales, marketing and management experience to the organization.

Prior to joining Check Point, Mr. Bar-Lev was founder and CEO of Xpert Integrated System Ltd., a leading provider of security, business-continuity and Infrastructure platforms and solutions. Before forming Xpert, Mr. Bar-Lev began his career in the Israeli Air Force were he held several positions within the operational and administration units.

Mr. Bar-Lev holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Computer Science (HONS) and Management (HONS) from Tel-Aviv University.




"Xpert Integrated System Ltd."

-> zeronetx.net/contact.html

Contact Us


Israel Office
Europark - Italy House
Business Park Yakum
60972 Israel
Telephone: +972 9 961 8888
Fax: +972 9 961 8899
Email: xpertinfo @ xpert.com
Xpertsales @ xpert.com
xpertcareers @ xpert.com

Dr. Dorit Dor

Vice President of Products
Check Point Software Technologies

Dr. Dorit Dor, vice president of products at Check Point, manages all product definition and development functions for both the enterprise and consumer divisions of the company. Her core responsibilities include leading the company's product management, research and development (R&D) and quality assurance (QA) initiatives from concept to delivery.

Since joining the company in 1995, Dr. Dor has served in several pivotal roles in Check Point's R&D organization. She has been instrumental to the organization's growth and managed many successful product releases.

Dr. Dor holds a Ph.D. and M.S degree in computer science from Tel-Aviv University, in addition to graduating cum laude for her Bachelor of Science degree. She has been published in several influential scientific journals for her research on graph decomposition, median selection and geometric pattern matching in d-dimensional space. In 1993, she won the Israel National Defense Prize.


Tal Payne

Chief Financial Officer
Check Point Software Technologies

Tal Payne, chief financial officer of Check Point, is responsible for all worldwide financial management including, investor relations, planning, reporting, financial and risk management, logistics and legal affairs.

Prior to joining Check Point in 2008, Ms. Payne was chief financial officer at Gilat Satellite Networks, Ltd., a leading provider of products and services for satellite-based communications networks. During her tenure at Gilat, she was fully responsible for the strategic planning, developments and leadership of the entire corporate finance organization, and held the role of vice president of finance for over five years. Ms. Payne led the company’s public offerings, capital restructurings and other transactions. Before joining Gilat, she was previously employed at PricewaterhouseCoopers.

Ms. Payne holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics and Accounting and an Executive MBA, both from Tel-Aviv University. She is also a Certified Public Accountant.



"Gilat Satellite Networks, Ltd."

-> alacrastore.com/company-snapshot/Gilat_Satellite_Networks_Ltd-1073187

Gilat Satellite Networks Ltd.

21 Yegia Kapayim St
Kiryat Arye
Petah Tikva 49130
Israel
Tel: 972/3/925-2000
URL: gilat.com
Primary Symbol & Exchange
GILT - Common Stock - Tel Aviv
Other Symbol & Exchange:
GILT - Dual listed - NASDAQ


Yoav Chelouche

Managing Partner
Aviv Venture Capital

Yoav Chelouche has served on our board of directors since 2006. Mr. Chelouche has also served as one of our outside directors under the Israeli Companies Law since 2006. Mr. Chelouche has been Managing Partner of Aviv Venture Capital since August 2000. Prior to joining Aviv Venture Capital, Mr. Chelouche served as President and Chief Executive Officer of Scitex Corp., a world leader in digital imaging and printing systems (NASDAQ: SCIX), from December 1994 until July 2000. From August 1979 until December 1994, Mr. Chelouche held various managerial positions with Scitex, including VP Strategy and Business Development, VP Marketing and VP Finance for Europe. Mr. Chelouche is the Chairman of the Board of Dmatek Ltd., Chairman of the Board of Rosetta Genomics Ltd., and a member of the board of directors of a number of private companies.

He is also Chairman of Taasiyeda, an Israeli nonprofit organization that promotes the development of leadership and technology skills in children. Mr. Chelouche earned a B.A. in Economics and Statistics from Tel Aviv University, and an M.B.A. from INSEAD University in Fontainebleau, France.



"Aviv Venture Capital" :

-> avivvc.com/aboutus.asp

Established in 2001, Aviv Ventures invests in Israel related, revenue stage companies that bring breakthrough technologies to large established industries. Aviv has a preference for companies offering “Hi-Tech solutions for Low-Tech industries” such as security, clean-tech, automotive, printing, medical devices etc.[...]


"Rosetta Genomics Ltd."

leur site web : rosettagenomics.com

-> biospace.com/company_profile.aspx?CompanyId=858720


Rosetta Genomics Ltd.

10 Plaut Street

Rehovot 76706 Israel
Phone: 972-0-8-9484755 Fax: 972-0-8-9484766




Scitex Corp. a changé de nom :

-> scailex.com

non, c'est pas sur scitex.com qu'il fallait regarder :lol:

Scailex Corporation shares trade on The Tel Aviv Stock Exchange under the symbol "SCIX" and are quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board under the symbol "SCIXF.OB". The company is located in:

48 Ben - Zion Galis St.
Segula Industrial Park,
Petach - Tikva
Israel, 49277
T: 972-3-9057730
F: 972-3-9300424



Dmatek Ltd a changé de nom :

-> attentigroup.com/default.asp?PageID=5&PageName=Contact_Us

Contact Us
Home
CONTACT US


2 Habarzel St.,

P.O.Box 13236
Tel-Aviv 61131,
Israel

Tel: +972 3 767 1700
Fax: +972 3 767 1701

Email: info @ attentigroup.com


Irwin Federman

General Partner
U.S. Venture Partners

Irwin Federman has served on our board of directors since 1995. Mr. Federman has also served as one of our outside directors under the Israeli Companies Law since 2000. Mr. Federman has been a General Partner of U.S. Venture Partners, a venture capital firm, since 1990. Mr. Federman serves as director of SanDisk Corp., Mellanox Technologies Ltd. and a number of private companies. Mr. Federman received a B.S. in Economics from Brooklyn College.



"Mellanox Technologies Ltd."

-> mellanox.com/content/pages.php?pg=contact

Contact
Corporate Headquarters

* USA
Mellanox Technologies, Inc.
350 Oakmead Parkway, Suite 100
Sunnyvale, CA 94085
Tel: 408-970-3400
Fax: 408-970-3403
E-mail: info @ mellanox.com
Map and Directions

Tech Support: 408-916-0055
(8:00 AM to 5:00 PM - Pacific)

Support for Voltaire products:
1-800-VOLTAIR or 978-439-5490



* Israel Yokneam Office
Mellanox Technologies, Ltd.
Hermon Bldg.
Yokneam, Israel 20692
Telephone: +972-4-909-7200
Fax: +972-4-959-3245
E-mail: info @ mellanox.com

Tech Support: +972 4 9097200 ext 250
(8:00 AM to 5:00 PM - Israel Time)


Support for Voltaire products in EMEA /APAC
##.800.865.82473

(Where ## is the International Direct Dialing Prefix)


Guy Gecht

CEO
Electronics For Imaging, Inc. (EFI)

Guy Gecht has served on our board of directors since 2006. Mr. Gecht has also served as one of our outside directors under the Israeli Companies Law since 2006. Mr. Gecht is the Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Electronics For Imaging, Inc. (EFI), a leader in digital imaging and print management solutions for commercial and enterprise printing. Mr. Gecht has served in this position since January 2000. From October 1995 until January 2000, Mr. Gecht held various positions with EFI, including President of the company. Prior to joining EFI, Mr. Gecht held various software engineering positions with technology companies. Mr. Gecht holds a B.S. in Computer Science and Mathematics from Ben-Gurion University in Israel.



"Electronics For Imaging, Inc"

-> efi.com

-> referenceforbusiness.com/history2/6/Electronics-for-Imaging-Inc.html


Electronics for Imaging (EFI) was founded in 1989 by 51-year-old Efraim "Efi" Arazi, a native of Israel.


Marius Nacht

Founder, Vice Chairman
Check Point Software Technologies

Marius Nacht, one of our founders, has served as Vice Chairman of our board of directors since 2001. Mr. Nacht has served as one of our directors since we were incorporated in 1993. From 1999 through 2005 Mr. Nacht served as our Senior Vice President. Mr. Nacht earned a B.S. cum laude in Physics and Mathematics from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1983, and an M.S. in Electrical Engineering and Communication Systems from Tel Aviv University in 1987.


Dan Propper

Chairman of the Board
Osem Industries Ltd.

Dan Propper has served as one of our directors since 2006. Mr. Propper is the Chairman of the Board of the Osem group, a leading Israeli manufacturer of food products. Mr. Propper served as the CEO of Osem for 25 years until April 2006. In addition to his role at Osem, from 1993 until 1999, Mr. Propper served as President of the Manufacturers' Association of Israel, an independent umbrella organization representing industrial enterprises in Israel, and as Chairman of the Federation of Economic Organizations in Israel, which unites economic and business organizations that represents all business sectors in Israel. Mr. Propper has received prestigious accolades for his contributions to the Israeli industry and economy, including an honorary Doctorate from the Technion – Israel Institute of Technology in 1999. Mr. Propper serves as a member of the boards of the First International Bank of Israel, Delta Galil Industries Ltd., Osem Investments Ltd., and a number of private companies, including Tivall Ltd. and Sabra Salads Ltd., subsidiaries of Osem. Mr. Propper is also a member of the board of the Technion, the Weizmann Institute of Science and Ben-Gurion University in Israel, and of the executive committee of Tel Aviv University. Mr. Propper earned a B.Sc. summa cum laude in Chemical Engineering and Food Technology from the Technion.


Ray Rothrock

Managing General Partner
Venrock Associates

Ray Rothrock has served on our board of directors since 1995. Mr. Rothrock has also served as one of our outside directors under the Israeli Companies Law since 2000. Mr. Rothrock is Managing General Partner of Venrock Associates, a venture capital firm, where he has been a member since 1988 and a general partner since 1995. Mr. Rothrock is also a director of a number of private companies. Mr. Rothrock received a B.S. in Engineering from Texas A&M University, an M.S. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and an M.B.A. from the Harvard Business School.



"Venrock Associates"

(Ven pour Venture, Rock pour Rockefeller d'après Wikipedia)

-> venrock.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=locations.locationDetail&id=112



Israel

Israel Office: Ohad Finkelstein

4 Hasadnaot Street
Herzelya Pituach
Israel 46733

Tel +972 9 951 1570
Fax +972 9 951 1578


David Rubner

Chairman and CEO
Rubner Technology Ventures Ltd.

David Rubner has served on our board of directors since 1999. Mr. Rubner is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Rubner Technology Ventures Ltd., a venture capital firm, and is a general partner in Hyperion Israel Advisors Ltd., a venture capital fund. Prior to starting Rubner Technology Ventures, Mr. Rubner served as President and Chief Executive Officer of ECI Telecommunications Ltd. Prior to this appointment, he held various management positions in ECI Telecom. Mr. Rubner serves on the boards of directors of Elbit Imaging Ltd., Messaging International Ltd., and a number of private companies. Mr. Rubner is also a member of the Board of Trustees of Bar-Ilan University and Shaare Zedek hospital, and chairman of the Petach-Tikva Foundation. Mr. Rubner holds a B.S. in engineering from Queen Mary College, University of London; and an M.S. in Electrical Engineering from Carnegie Mellon University; and he was a recipient of the Industry Prize in 1995.



"Rubner Technology Ventures Ltd."

-> iaesi.org.il/Eng/?CategoryID=163&ArticleID=266



Rubner Technology Ventures Ltd.

Startup company.

President: Mr. David Rubner

Main Business Areas:
Investments in Hi-Tech



Headquarter:
Israel :
P.O.Box 385
Kibuz Givat A'shlosha 48800

Phone: 972-3-9039777
Fax: 972-3-9036444
david @ rubner.co.il




"Hyperion Israel Advisors Ltd."

-> hyperionisrael.com/contact



Israel
Hyperion Israel Advisors Ltd.
Givat Hashlosha 48800, Israel
Tel: +972-3-903-9988
Fax: +972-3-915-8106
Our mailing address:
c/o Brooks Keret
6 Hama'alit Street
Kadima 60920, Israel

U.S
Hyperion
50 Charles Lindbergh Blvd.
Suite 500
Uniondale, NY 11553
Phone +1-516-745-6644
Fax +1-516-745-6787



"ECI Telecommunications Ltd."

-> ecitele.com/AboutECI/ContactUs/Pages/Default.aspx



ECI Head Office

30 Hasivim St.
Petach Tikva 49517, Israel
Tel: +972-3-9266555
Fax: +972-3-9266444
E-mail: web.inquiries @ ecitele.com




"Elbit Imaging Ltd."

-> elbitimaging.com/39121.html



Contact Details
Elbit Imaging Headquarters
2 Weitzman st.,
Tel Aviv, 64239, Israel
Phone: +972 3 608 6000
Email: contact @ elbitimaging.com




"Bar-Ilan University"

-> www1 .biu.ac.il/indexE.php?id=35&pt=1&pid=30&level=2&cPath=4

About the University

Bar-Ilan University is the largest and fastest growing university in Israel, with a student population of approximately 33,917 at the main campus in Ramat Gan, and at the four regional colleges operating under its auspices – in the Jordan Valley, in Safed, in the western Galilee and in Ashkelon.

The university regards the sacred principles of Judaism as the manifestation of the Jewish people's uniqueness, in accordance with the principles defined upon its establishment. The university's basic roles include supporting the safeguarding of these principles out of love and with the purpose of training and producing scholars, researchers and men of science knowledgeable in the Torah and imbued with the original Jewish spirit and love of one's brethren.[...]



Shaare Zedek hospital

-> szmc.org.il/SupportSZ/tabid/417/Default.aspx



Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Department of Resource Development and Public Affairs
P.O. Box 3235
Jerusalem 91031
Israel

Contact: Uri Schwarz, Director of Resource Development and Public Affairs
rd @ szmc.org.il
972-2-666-6622




"Petach-Tikva Foundation."

-> tonic.com/cause/petach-tikva-foundation-inc



Petach Tikva Foundation Inc
The Yeshiva bases its Modern Orthodox educational philosophy on the study of all aspects of the Torah, on the importance of interaction with members of all communities in Israel, and the emphasis of critical and relevant issues of faith in modern times.

Petach Tikva Foundation Inc's Official Site

ypt.co.il

(Le site est entièrement en hébreux)



Dr. Tal Shavit

Organizational Consultant

Dr. Tal Shavit has served on our board of directors since 2000. Dr. Shavit is an organizational consultant specializing in international collaboration between Israeli and American companies, consulting in the management of cultural differences in order to forge effective collaboration. Her work with leading management teams includes a defining of organizational culture as the engine of the company's activities. She consults to companies undergoing structural change with emphasis on organizational growth through effective mergers and acquisitions and a redefining of management roles in order to meet market changes.


Jerry Ungerman

Vice Chairman, Board of Directors
Check Point Software Technologies

Juliette Sultan

Vice President of Global Marketing
Check Point Software Technologies


Rien de précisé concernant Israël sur la biographie de ces 2 derniers.

Concernant le firewall Zone Alarm lui même, il y a quelques années de cela, j'avais
regardé de près le trafic réseau généré par celui-ci, et je m'étais rendu compte
qu'il y avait des connexions DNS particulièrement suspectes qui pointaient
vers une de leurs adresses Internet. J'ignore si c'est toujours le cas actuellement.
(Pour ceux qui pensent à la mise à jour automatique, ce n'était pas lié à cela,
la fréquence de ces connexions DNS se comptait en secondes).

Bon, ça fait beaucoup tout ça, non ? Mais au cas où vous ne seriez pas tout à fait convaincu,
voyons un peu ce que pensent le FBI et la NSA de la société Check Point qui propose gratuitement
aux particuliers une version gratuite du firewall Zone Alarm :

In 2006 the Check Point Software Technologies company, which specializes in protecting computer systems from hackers and data theft, wanted to acquire an American company called Sourcefire, which works in the same field. The great advantage of Sourcefire was that its clients include the American Defense Department and the National Security Agency. The U.S. administration, however, by means of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, did not approve the acquisition.

The committee made its decision based on an opinion by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and NSA security officers. The two organizations were afraid that Check Point, which was founded by Gil Shwed and fellow graduates of Unit 8200, the Israel Defense Forces' high-tech intelligence unit, would have access to top-secret information, which it could pass on to Israel's intelligence community.


Source : http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/fe ... d-1.255520

A cause de l'opinion du FBI et de la NSA, La société "Check Point" n'a donc pas pu s'emparer de la société
américaine "Sourcefire", la raison de ce refus étant les liens de Check Point avec Israël !!!

Re: Vous faites confiance à Israël pour la sécurité de votre PC?

Publié : 20/08/2013 - 11:56
par popol75014
bonjour

il y a bien longtemps que les ordinateurs et tout système informatique ont des mouchards et peuvent étre pilotable a distance via internet ou toutes connexion a des reseaux - prise en main par des services d'état ou autres hackers de très très haut niveau

( genre les constructeurs de processeurs qui laisse une partie des couches du processeur en attente invisible . par exemple ) sans que vous le sachiez et sans logiciels installés !

cette technologie BIG BROTHER c 'est développée a la vitesse grand V depuis le 11 septembre .

ils discutent aussi de ce genre de choses les " grands chefs d’états " quand il y les sommets internationaux genre G8 - G7 .....


mais CHUUTTTTT c est un secret d'état ............